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Older wagon and emigrant trails
« on: November 11, 2006, 07:09:42 AM »
This thread is about old emigrant and freight trails, and their relation to later auto trails and highways.

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Older wagon and emigrant trails
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2013, 09:13:01 PM »
A quick question...Has anybody ever brought up old highways abandoned prior to the official named highways? Such examples are the Bradshaw Trail, The Old Government Road AKA: The Mojave Road. The Butterfield Overland Route and others? I guess this would be the best place to begin a discussion on this subject. Any thoughts?

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« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2013, 12:36:37 AM »
Well, I don't think I would classify these as "highways." Certainly I have looked into the origins of the auto trails in earlier emigrant and freight roads, but many times these connections are weak. I have actually driven almost the whole Mojave Road from the Nevada line nearly all the way to Barstow. That route never became a highway, and was indeed pretty much only used in the 1870s by the Army. Several auto trails roughly follow emigrant or stage routes, such as US 80 between El Centro and Plaster City in the Colorado Desert of California.
The most sound connection is that of the National Old Trails Road since it was purposely designed to follow and memorialize the old trails by the Daughters of the American Revolution. That road follows the federally funded National Road (1830s, which was based on Braddock's military trail), the Boone's Lick Trail (established by the sons of Daniel Book in Missouri), the Santa Fe Trail, El Camino Real de Tierra Adentro, and what was supposed to be Stephen Kearney's route to California. The last section ended up following the route of the Beale Wagon Road by 1914. [map]

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Re: Older wagon and emigrant trails
« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2013, 03:17:14 PM »
I do not know if anybody ever read the books on the old government road by David Casebeir. Here he gave detailed data linking the road with later to become route 66. It was originally started by Lt. Edward F. Beal for the government as a mail and emigration route for those heading out of or coming in from California. The government set up several military posts to protect the route and the people traveling it. Usage of the route was later abandoned when the railroad was established further south and the road paralleled the tracks. This new route soon became known as Route 66. Prior to the automobile this route was considered as a highway by early standards since it was well traveled by emigrants with wagon trains. I guess you could say that it was wide enough to drive a Studebaker through :).

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Re: Older wagon and emigrant trails
« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2013, 10:31:03 PM »
I drove the road with an Xterra club, and we had Dennis's book as a guide.

One of the main emigrant and stage routes was the Southern Emigrant Trail, which goes through Imperial County and then heads northwest towards Los Angeles. Clear remnants of this trail still exist in many places, and several of the stage stations from the Butterfield Overland Mail exists as restored buildings or ruins.

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Re: Older wagon and emigrant trails
« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2013, 03:46:11 PM »
Speaking about old Butterfield stations along the old Emigrant route, One thing comes to mind is the old San Felipe station. I have been doing some research of this locality and know it is not to be confused with the newer San Felipe few miles further up the canyon. The original station was closer to Scissors Crossing either on or just a bit further NW of the intersection. This place was first settled back in the Mexican era and was well visited as a relief from the Anza Borrego desert. Unlike the more popular stations of Oak Grove, Warner's Ranch and Carrizo, this station seems to have very little written history about it and even more, any physical evidence of it's existence save the old maps that locate it. I do believe some Thomas Guides have it located but the accuracy is quite debatable.

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Re: Older wagon and emigrant trails
« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2013, 10:22:28 PM »
You need to talk to Chris Wray about the station. He was involved in finding the real station location, as well as tracing the path of the trail across the desert.