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National Old Trails Road / San Bernardino to Victorville, California
« on: December 31, 2011, 02:18:31 PM »
I've posted a series of maps and notes on the National Old Trails Road section between San Bernardino and Victorville in the Route 66 forum. The discussion mainly focuses on the Cajon Wash and Cajon Pass areas.

San Bernardino and the Cajon Pass.


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National Old Trails Road / Barstow and Daggett to Needles, California
« on: December 31, 2011, 02:13:56 PM »
I've posted a set of maps and notes on the National Old Trails Road section between Barstow and Needles, California in the Route 66 forum.

Barstow and Daggett to Needles.


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Highway 66 / Barstow and Daggett to Needles
« on: December 31, 2011, 01:13:36 PM »
This thread will cover all alignments of the roads between Barstow and Needles, California. This route was not used as the National Old Trails Road transcontinental highway until the national NOTR convention in Kansas City, April 29, 1913. In November 1926, this road became U.S. numbered highway 66 (Route 66). I'll try to place notes for each map underneath the map, covering them section by section. I'll be adding topographic map sections, aerial images and annotated maps in addition to the auto club maps. All maps shown are for academic discussion regarding disused auto trails and highways. Their use is purely educational.

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Highway 66 / San Bernardino and the Cajon Pass
« on: December 21, 2011, 04:09:53 PM »
I'll be posting notes, maps, and other information, covering both US 66 and US 395, for the route between San Bernardino and the current split of US 395 near Hesperia. Since I will be looking at some pre-1926 information, this will also cover the National Old Trails Road. US 395 was extending into California (all the way to San Diego) in about November 1934. So, I will try to especially outline the 1935 highway route.

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Other named auto trails / Index map to auto club map series
« on: December 13, 2011, 11:16:16 AM »
This image is the index map (map number "600") to the Automobile Club of Southern California strip maps for the National Old Trails Road, Lincoln Highway, Midland Trail, Arrowhead Trail, King of Trails, and old Illinois Highway 4.

Click on the thumbnail to connect to a larger image.

   


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National Old Trails Road / Index map to auto club map series
« on: December 13, 2011, 11:15:10 AM »
This image is the index map (map number "600") to the Automobile Club of Southern California strip maps for the National Old Trails Road, Lincoln Highway, Midland Trail, Arrowhead Trail, King of Trails, and old Illinois Highway 4.

Click on the thumbnail to connect to a larger image.

   


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Lincoln Highway / Index map to auto club map series
« on: December 13, 2011, 11:14:33 AM »
This image is the index map (map number "600") to the Automobile Club of Southern California strip maps for the National Old Trails Road, Lincoln Highway, Midland Trail, Arrowhead Trail, King of Trails, and an old Illinois route approximately on 1930s Route 66.

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Highway 395 / Colton — Riverside to San Bernadino
« on: December 04, 2011, 08:13:44 PM »
Here's a summary of map information for the route through Colton, California. Asterisk (*) indicates government publication such as topo map or DOT map.

1917 - 1920s era ACSC maps show early route north into Colton as: east under RR on Fogg St, immediate turn north onto S 6th St, east on W Congress St, north on 8th St to O St, jog west to continue north on 8th St (now La Cadena), past I Street to F Street, east on F Street to Colton Ave, northeast to Mt. Vernon.
*1934 official Cal DOT San Bernardino map clearly shows F Street connecting to Colton, though the map shows 8th (La Cadena), F Street, diagonal Colton Ave, and Mt Vernon as bold routes. Valley Blvd west of 8th Street and east of E Street is Colton Ave.
*1934 official Cal DOT Los Angeles and Vicinity map shows Riverside to Colton as LRN 43, F Street (unlabeled) east and west is LRN 26 (US 70 & US 99 unlabeled here), and Mt. Vernon north is  LRN 31 through Cajon Pass.
1934 Conoco map shows highway going into Riverside.
1935 Conoco map seems to indicate a Riverside bypass of the highway via Iowa Ave.
*1936 July 14 California Highways article showing old route via Fogg St and 8th St being replaced by the modern La Cadena alignment.
1937 Gousha map indicates main 395 route on I Street (Valley Blvd) east to diagonal Colton Ave to Mt. Vernon. Possibly an error, and the route is similar to the 1917 ACSC map. Doubtful that Colton ever extended to I Street.
1939 NAC Touring Guide --- US 395 on La Cadena in Riverside (as “La Cardena”).
1939 Chevron map does not show US 395 going through downtown Riverside, but rather to the east. Seems to suggest a jog on I Street to Mt. Vernon.
*1943 Colton 1:31000 topo map clearly shows US 395 on La Cadena. Iowa Ave is not indicated as a main road. US 395 shield is clearly shown on Mt Vernon south of diagonal Colton Ave. I Street in red, but F Street has no emphasis.
*1944 official Cal DOT Los Angeles and Vicinity map shows La Cadena north to I Street, then east to Mt. Vernon, and north into San Bernardino.
1947 Gousha map indicates US 395 on Main, Russell, La Cadena.
1948 NAC Touring guide --- US 395 goes up Iowa in Riverside, but CA 18 on La Cadena.
*1947 and 1954 15-minute topographic maps show US 395 on La Cadena, not Iowa Ave.
*1947 15-minute topo shows a US 395 shield on Mt Vernon just north of diagonal Colton Ave. Not clear whether Colton or Mt Vernon is 395 south of this point. See 1943 above.
*1954 15-minute topo shows US 395, US 91 and CA 18 shields going through downtown Colton via La Cadena all the way north to Mt Vernon.


Summary:
Circa late 1934 - La Cadena Ave north to Fogg Street. East on Fogg Street through 1907 railroad subway (underpass). North on 8th Street to O Street. Jog west to continue on 8th Street, now La Cadena. North to F Street. East to Colton Avenue. Northeast to Mt. Vernon along Colton Ave, north to San Bernardino. There is some evidence that the highway as LRN 31 went north the whole way on Mt. Vernon starting with the 1933 code. Th 1935 code also seems to suggest this. This was likely north from F Street, as it was evidently LRN 26 at this time.
1936 - Fogg Street route on the south side of Colton replaced by new grade separation connecting La Cadena to 8th Street at O Street. Present day La Cadena alignment.
1943 - From La Cadena, turn east on I Street (now Valley Blvd), north on Mt. Vernon to San Bernardino.
1948 - By this time, Iowa Ave may possibly have become a US 395 bypass route for Riverside.
1954 - Continue north on La Cadena at I Street. Follow the curve northeast until La Cadena meets Mt. Vernon. Turn north to San Bernardino.
1957 - Colton bypass of US 395 and US 91 under construction (Riverside Fwy, future original I-15, I-15E, and I-215 route).
1959 - Riverside Freeway opens (carries US 91 and 395), and La Cadena to Mt. Vernon through Colton becomes Business Route 91 and 395.


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Highway 395 / Poway to Vista
« on: December 17, 2010, 09:04:54 PM »
I'm tackling the section between Poway and Vista in this thread.
I'll start with Poway and the road into Escondido.

As I mentioned in the last thread, US 395 followed Old Pomerado Road north of the Poway Grade. The center of this area (north of the creek) was called Poway Grove Park during 395 days.

The main road into the village of Poway in the first half of the 20th century was not Poway Road but Oak Knoll Road. From there you had to go north on Carriage Road (appropriate name) to Poway Road. The main town area was between Midland Rd and Garden Rd where all the car dealerships are today. The area near the junction of Carriage and Poway roads was the location of the main Kumeyaay-Ipai indian villages. There is a Pauwai indian village interpretive site on the hill to the west of Carriage Rd off Poway Rd. Open Saturday mornings.

US 395 proceeded straight north from the intersection of Oak Knoll and Pomerado. The jog east at Twin Peaks Rd/Camino Del Norte has always been there. In the early 1900s it was a series on angles, and in the 395 days it was curved, but the curves were sharper (smaller radius). The road seems to have run a bit farther north into the flat area, then curved more sharply east.

The 395 highway followed all the curves of Pomerado Road to Lake Hodges. One thing to explain, however, is the path of the Inland Route to Escondido before the Bernardo River was dammed in 1918 forming Lake Hodges (and Santa Ysabel Creek as the feeder's name today). When the highway reached the area around Bernardo Trails Drive, it veered northeast into the canyon on the east side of the hills east of Pomerado Road. A dirt road still exists in this canyon leading north to the Pinery Christmas Tree lot. From there the old Escondido Road bent west, meeting a road coming in from the west side of Battle Mountain. (Farther south it's essentially West Bernardo Road). After the merge, the road headed north in the area of Evergreen Nursery off Highland Valley Rd. It was roughly where the nursery's main road is. It headed north to cross the Bernardo River on a bridge. On the north side, part of this road still remains as the Mule Hill hiking trail. Mule Hill north of the lake was the site of the final stages of the Battle of San Pasqual. Just north of the bridge, near where the hill comes closest to the dirt road, was a small town called Bernardo. Traces of this old Escondido Road are visible as ghost signs painted on the nearby boulders advertising businesses in Escondido. This dirt road then headed north becoming Sunset Drive (now part of Bear Valley Parkway in this area). The road stayed with Sunset Drive as it turned northwest. Bearing left at two forks, the road eventually merges with Escondido Blvd, once called Nutmeg.

Here's the 1901 map around Lake Hodges, with notes:




And here is the same area in 1947 right before the freeway alignments were built. This is the way the highway looked from 1926 to 1947.



After crossing the old bridge, the road followed the same path as I-15 until Centre City Parkway. It followed Centre City until Escondido Blvd (Nutmeg) veers off to the right.

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Highway 395 / San Diego to Poway
« on: December 05, 2010, 06:53:55 PM »
I've been looking at the San Diego to Poway section, and I have some comments. First let me show a few sets of ACSC maps.
[Used for academic purposes only; entire maps not shown; prior to 1923 is public domain.]

First let's look at the Inland Route from San Diego downtown to the Mission.

Circa 1917 map:




Looking at this first map above, I note that there seems to be an error in the depiction of the University Heights area. Notice that the inland route in the 1910s followed almost the same route as 1935 US 395. The road follows the auto trails and future 1926 US 80 up 5th Avenue to University. It then goes diagonally up a road that must be Normal Street. This reaches an east-west road labeled Adams Avenue. This is actually the location of Meade Avenue. Note that Mission heads diagonally northeast from the intersection. This road really reaches Texas Street near Adams Avenue, not Murphy Canyon. I think the alignment intended is: University to Normal, jog up to Mission, diagonally northeast to Adams, east on Adams to Murphy Canyon. Although the road is labeled Adams, Madison is also a possibility as I'll show.



1922-1925 map. The oldest I have is December 1922, but it's identical to the 1923 and 1925 maps. The 1926 map only has a minor difference in Linda Vista in which the swing south is not shown, and which must be in error since the road still swings south today.



The 1922 map above shows the Inland Route following Kearny Villa Rd and Linda Vista to meet future US 101 (Coast Route) on Morena Blvd north of the San Diego River. It then follows the Coast Route through Old Town along San Diego Avenue and India Street into downtown. Note the path up in University Heights. You can't tell whether the road is Adams or Madison, but there is some sort of over-crossing bridge (or a tunnel) on Ward Road south of the San Diego Mission. I have no idea what that is. [see post below for more on this]



The 1950 map is two years after the Cabrillo Freeway was built.

1950 map section:




It nicely shows the former route of 395 through Murphy Canyon and up Fairmount. to El Cajon Blvd. This route is clearly shown in the 1935 ACSC Exposition map:



Geography Quiz. There are two Ward Roads in San Diego. Where are they? Hint, they were once the same road....

Answer. One is {here} leading to Normal Heights Elementary and once linked with a jog to Madison. The other is {here}, and lines up with Rancho Mission Road near the Mission site. This was the early Inland Route as shown on the 1917 Blue Book map:



The "Ave" is actually Madison, not Adams. Adams is one block north and is characterized by its diagonal steps and the fact that it hits the eastward loop of Mountain View Drive. [Location map]
Other maps show Madison also, such as the 1933 AAA map:



Notice that the inland route to Los Angeles is along Murphy Canyon Road.

However, the 1925 Rand McNally map shows a route very similar to the 1935 Exposition map. It indicates Adams, not Madison. It also shows the road to Escondido from Linda Vista (Camp Kearny Road).



So which was it? Well, the 1940 HMG map shows both Adams and Madison linked to Ward Road in Murphy Canyon. Both Linda Vista and US 395 are labeled as "To Escondido." (Also note that Ulric Street in Linda Vista was once known as the "6th Street Extension" and linked to 6th St in Hillcrest.)



Note that in both the 1935 Exposition map and the 1940 inset map from HMG, US 101 was located on Market Street. Therefore, both US 80 and US 395 would have had their terminus at 12th (Park Blvd) and Market St during this time. This was the first terminus point of US 395 (in San Diego), unless we can show that US 395 followed LRN 77 on Linda Vista Road prior to 1934-35. As I've said, I've never seen a San Diego map with 395 shields older than that 1935 Exposition map.


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Highway 395 / Welcome to the U.S. Highway 395 board
« on: December 04, 2010, 06:24:52 PM »
U.S. 395 appeared in 1926 as a tributary route of US 95 in Washington state. By 1935 it extended all the way south from Canada to San Diego. Historic U.S. 395 can still be found in Southern California, and historic route signs are popping up along the road.

Steve

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Dixie Highway / Dixie Highway Articles
« on: October 15, 2010, 07:43:19 PM »
I posted several very early articles about the initial Chattanooga convention on the Auto Trail Articles page. More to come....

Steve
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Bankhead Highway / August updates
« on: August 06, 2010, 08:21:27 PM »
I altered the Bankhead towns for Virginia as I do research using the 1922 Guide. My original source, the 1922-23 Rand McNally auto club map for the southeast, does not actually label the Bankhead between Washington and Oxford. I just assumed it followed the path of all the other auto trails. Perhaps soon after 1922 it did. However, I'm trying to record the earliest route. One thing I can say, the Bankhead Highway was very often not on present day US 1. It is from Richmond to Petersburg, but elsewhere it follows its own route through the country.

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El Camino Real in California / Another day at the Auto club archives
« on: June 03, 2010, 08:58:04 PM »
I spent another day at the So Cal auto club archives in LA. Once again, Morgan Yates, the archivist, was very helpful. This time I focused on El Camino Real.

I photographed much of four books, mostly the ECR pages. They were: Hamilton's Illustrated Road Map — California Tour Book (1914); 1914-1914 Panoramic Automobile Road Map and Tourist Guide Book — Southern California; Automobile Club of Southern California Tour Book (1909); Automobile Club of Southern California Tour Book (1911). The latter two are fairly different from each other.
I also got copies of a few Touring Topics articles from the 1912-1918 period.
I got copies of some old strips maps I don't have, mostly from 1912-1914.
I did get a few other maps of the National Old Trails Road and the Borderland Route that I missed before. One set of note was the Needles to Seligman road from 1913, predating the 1915-era National Old Trails Road book.

If I have to go up there again someday I may take the train. 5-6 total hours on the freeway in the morning and afternoon is a drag.

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AmericanRoads.us Web Site / Varner Guides — coming soon
« on: April 11, 2010, 10:48:58 PM »
Coming soon... Varner Guides — maps for road geeks.


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